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KiTkAT( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧/jk 4/16/2023 2:04 PM
(and in similar way, there are things in in-system relationship that relationships with another human cannot give)
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Trixie 🔷 Sapphire Safehaven 3(🏝)0 BOT 4/16/2023 2:06 PM
In-system relationships are good for us due to the absence of certain things that would be present in relationships outside the system. Of course there are cons to being in an in-sys relationship but currently for us the pros outweigh the cons. Our circumstances may change 10 years or so into the future, who knows
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KiTkAT( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧/jk 4/16/2023 2:07 PM
I'm definitely not going to try to stop you from being happy
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Trixie 🔷 Sapphire Safehaven 3(🏝)0 BOT 4/16/2023 2:08 PM
Yeah, I understand the points you’re making as well
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@KiTkAT( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧/jk I have that issue with my host. Sometimes I do get jealous when he likes someone else in the real world.
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Uhm, I read in a guide that making a character sheet with traits and simulating situations help, should I do that? I don't mind helping her with traits but acting as her feels like parroting, I don't really like the idea of parroting. For now I've only gotten responses with the pendulum method, I want to help her grow but I don't want to control her or be pushy. (edited)
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aapeli 🟣🥫🥔 ae 4/17/2023 7:51 PM
i didnt really have any detailed plans on my tulpa except for some core personality traits and stuff, and she turned out perfect, so if you dont feel like you want to be detailed you dont have to
7:53 PM
i dont think thinking of scenarios beforehand is parroting, since you're not actually talking to her in those imaginary scenarios
7:53 PM
parroting would be when you actually try to talk to her and answer for her yourself
7:55 PM
also if she doesnt want something and wants to decide for herself, you'll know for sure
7:55 PM
or she will tell you
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Thinking of scenarios like thinking what she would say or do? I'm not sure what she wants, im struggling to communicate, I've only gotten two very clear answers with the pendulum, the rest I'm not sure. If you don't mind me asking, how long did it take for you to start understanding what your tulpa wanted, before vocalization I mean.
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aapeli 🟣🥫🥔 ae 4/17/2023 8:02 PM
ive been thinking in words and been talking to imaginary people in imaginary scenarios for as long as i can remember so my tulpa was vocal the first session i tried, but i didnt yet realize it
8:03 PM
has she answered to you but it felt like you?
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Oh, I've been doing that for a long time too, it just feels different with Mallory
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aapeli 🟣🥫🥔 ae 4/17/2023 8:03 PM
in words
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I don't think she has
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aapeli 🟣🥫🥔 ae 4/17/2023 8:03 PM
did you feel like you answered yourself at any point
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Only once
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aapeli 🟣🥫🥔 ae 4/17/2023 8:03 PM
did the answer come quickly
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I try not to answer anything myself
8:04 PM
Before I even finished the question
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aapeli 🟣🥫🥔 ae 4/17/2023 8:04 PM
it was her.
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happytears
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most likely
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Wait really??
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Oh god I need to apologize to her
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aapeli 🟣🥫🥔 ae 4/17/2023 8:04 PM
the answers at first sound like you but not quite, and they just come out of nowhere
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yeah
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Dummy me screwing things up again
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aapeli 🟣🥫🥔 ae 4/17/2023 8:04 PM
no its understandable
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~Moonlight~
Dummy me screwing things up again
NONO you're not dumb it's a common mistake
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aapeli 🟣🥫🥔 ae 4/17/2023 8:05 PM
i did the same at first too, and one sentence in a guide made me realize it was her
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and it was about it sounding like you but not quite
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A lot of the time the host and tulpa have the same sounding mindvoice so at first it's hard to tell the difference
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I talk to myself a lot, making stories talking to other characters too, maybe I'm too used to hearing responses I just thought it was myself
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aapeli 🟣🥫🥔 ae 4/17/2023 8:06 PM
what you should probably do is assume its her every time, but if it sounds weird or offensive, it might not be her
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exactly
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It feels way different when I talk to her.
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aapeli 🟣🥫🥔 ae 4/17/2023 8:06 PM
every time you've had an imaginary argument or something you always think its you, and it is
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but when you start tulpamancy it feels the same
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kinda same
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you will recognize her voice 100% after a short while
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Ahw I'm shaking sorry
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Like uh jittering I think is the word
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aapeli 🟣🥫🥔 ae 4/17/2023 8:08 PM
remember to take care of yourself lulawink
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it takes a bit of self care and thinking to get used to life with a tulpa
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but its worth it
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I'm not very good at taking care of myself
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aapeli 🟣🥫🥔 ae 4/17/2023 8:09 PM
possession wont be much different from vocality in terms of it feeling like you
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The only reason I changed so much this last few months is because I wanted my tulpa to have a safe environment
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I've been planning this for months
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aapeli 🟣🥫🥔 ae 4/17/2023 8:10 PM
your tulpa will likely understand that you need time to adjust
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mine kept insisting that i can have my own time to think
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I don't think it'll take me long to adjust
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In fact it will make me a lot happier
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aapeli 🟣🥫🥔 ae 4/17/2023 8:11 PM
some of the stuff is gonna be kinda wild, like you feeling her emotions
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berockly (TTG) 4/17/2023 8:11 PM
Yeah, in fact, an approach you can take to this is not caring who speaks
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aapeli 🟣🥫🥔 ae 4/17/2023 8:11 PM
but its all manageable and you'll get used to it
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berockly (TTG) 4/17/2023 8:11 PM
Over time, it becomes more automatic
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(i had to take that approach)
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So like, I don't treat it as either her responses or mine? And over time they will become clearer?
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aapeli 🟣🥫🥔 ae 4/17/2023 8:12 PM
it also helps if you learn to talk out loud to each other and only communicate that way, so it doesnt become super jumbled
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our thoughts get tangled pretty quick if we do rapid fire in our head lol
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I've been talking out loud, luckily I'm home alone most of the year this year so it's not too hard to hide from my parents.
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aapeli 🟣🥫🥔 ae 4/17/2023 8:13 PM
whispering will do fine too
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My thoughts are already pretty tangled lmao
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Like I don't even know where the music is coming from
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aapeli 🟣🥫🥔 ae 4/17/2023 8:13 PM
meditation might help clearing it if you need it
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~Moonlight~
So like, I don't treat it as either her responses or mine? And over time they will become clearer?
berockly (TTG) 4/17/2023 8:13 PM
No Stop caring so much It isnt the end of the world if you "bleed into" her thoughts
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Or his
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I can kill most of my thoughts at the same time, like the nothing box but also inside my brain.
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Kill as in stop instantly
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It just takes a bit of effort
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berockly (TTG) 4/17/2023 8:14 PM
Its her okay So anyways
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Remember that if your thoughts bleed into her, that is not a problem Dont use that to create more doubt
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You share the same brain, and shes young (i assume)
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Yeah 3rd day
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berockly (TTG) 4/17/2023 8:15 PM
It will gradually bleed in less and less
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Even over a year in, we still bleed
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aapeli 🟣🥫🥔 ae 4/17/2023 8:15 PM
oh you mean like it becomes mush and you dont know who said what
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berockly (TTG) 4/17/2023 8:16 PM
Sometimes when switching ill bleed into her actions We try not to care so much though
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aapeli 🟣🥫🥔 ae 4/17/2023 8:16 PM
oh yeah, we just ignore that
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aapeli 🟣🥫🥔 ae
oh you mean like it becomes mush and you dont know who said what
berockly (TTG) 4/17/2023 8:16 PM
Yes
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Oh I'm not even sure some thoughts are mind even without a tulpa
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Mine*
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berockly (TTG) 4/17/2023 8:16 PM
Just keep strengthening the associations that her thoughts are hers
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I'm all over the place
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aapeli 🟣🥫🥔 ae 4/17/2023 8:16 PM
we like to think theres my thoughts, her thoughts and random brain thoughts
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if its not sure who thought it, its probably the random brain thoughts or random mush and we kinda ignore it
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~Moonlight~
Oh I'm not even sure some thoughts are mind even without a tulpa
berockly (TTG) 4/17/2023 8:17 PM
They all are Technically What matters is how you assign them And how you define "you"
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Intrusive thoughts are just thoughts that are "unwanted" so people associate them away
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Oh yeah forgot about intrusive thoughts, they haven't been happening a lot lately
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berockly (TTG) 4/17/2023 8:17 PM
But yeah
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Just try not to get so worked up about bleed, it happens to even older tulpas
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I define random thoughts as things like the laugh from clash royale suddenly appearing in my head
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berockly (TTG) 4/17/2023 8:18 PM
And definitely dont be worked up by parrotnoia
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aapeli 🟣🥫🥔 ae 4/17/2023 8:18 PM
lol
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Intrusive thoughts as harmful thought
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berockly (TTG) 4/17/2023 8:18 PM
A thought you consider her is her
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